His pursuit of diversification has seen him demonised — not always- unjustifiably — but there is no doubt that Jeph Loeb will leave an indelible legacy on comic books.
He brought comic lore to the small screen with Smallville and Heroes. But mostly, he has shown a love of comic books, no doubt very personal to him. He returns and remains in an industry less profitable than TV or Film, having made his money from it. A love of an art form and ultimately, at times, enabling the expansion for it. Loeb belongs in the hall of Practitioners. Not always popular or well loved, he has no doubt influenced and furthered it and shown great love for it.
Its a word that slips easily from the tongue on a myriad of subjects. It can be applied forcefully and popularly to many things; the ignorant actions of a maniacal religious fundamentalist and terrorist, the despotic and arrogant foreign policy of industrial nations at times.
It can be used in a more personal and specific vehemence, reactionary to a set of circumstances, aimed at a personal and immediate target of contempt; such as getting up in the morning or the discovery of a rainy day. But it can also be applied more blithely and at times more aggressively at figures that have dared raise their heads above the parapets of creative output and deemed themselves worthy of outputting material on the popular stage.
One such man to have created such contempt is Jeph Loeb. Red Hulk makes a good point. A marmite figure in the starry fermament of the comic book industry sky, Loeb has been the subject of just such a vehement and outspoken attack by me, in the middle of Forbidden Planet.
I have existed in a state of contempt of Jeph Loeb for many years now. There are numerous reasons for this; He dips. Dancing around between industries Television and Comic book primarily he never remains on anything for very long. He enjoys a symbiotic relationship with comic books and appears and reappears occassionally from time to time as he feels like it. And they just keep letting him in.
As a freelancer, desperate to enter the industry myself it is perhaps galling to see someone allowed to choose when he feels like working. This is jealousy. The most arrogant and divisive motivation to hate.
He was clearly reluctant to talk about it at first, but that reluctance was quick to go away because he felt that he had to say something. There were three previous Marvel movies, a trilogy called Blade that was made where Wesley Snipes killed Asians each movie. When Finn Jones was announced as the lead for Iron Fist, many saw it as a missed opportunity to cast an Asian in the lead.
More than that, the dated story of the comic book character bolstered the white savior trope and the fetishization of Asian mysticism. Loeb also decided to show up to Comic-Con in a karate outfit which was definitely not a good look. This adds to the alleged unprofessional behavior by show creators and producers on sets of comic book projects. Of course, some of that was produced in the time leading up to and after the death of his son, so I think there's some room for forgiveness.
Then there's the whole Red Hulk thing, etc. Still, I don't dislike him nearly as much as many others, and I really liked Long Halloween some folks find it ok at best. Grumpygoat Fuck fascists Validated User. In a nutshell, whether due to the death of his son or because he really didn't have many good stories to tell to begin with, Loeb's work of the past few years has been Apparently one of the worst offenders is Ultimates 3, though I can't claim to have read it.
Luthor blames Superman for a chunk of kryptonite rock plummeting toward Earth or something similarly dumb like that? I've since blocked most of the story out of my brain.
Which, though I enjoyed them when I first got back into comics, stand out as rather mediocre bits of writing amidst all the other great comics out there. Basically, Loeb hasn't written anything that goes beyond mediocre in the past 10 or so years. Some of what he has written isn't even mediocre; it's just plain bad. That's it. The main body of his work, however, is nothing to write home about and oft-times cringeworthy. YojimboC Thunderball Fists! There are those of us who weren't much impressed by Long Halloween , and consider the rest of his output even worse.
Much, much worse. Yet he continues to get work, because people continue to buy the books that he writes. Yes, yes, that wasn't too inflammatory, was it? I can be sort of nice about Loeb. Grumpygoat said:. Jack Word Merc Validated User. The short form? Recently, especially since the death of his son, Loeb's stuff has been pretty disjointed and often pretty bad.
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